Episode 12
The Power of Your Voice with Brienne Hennessy
Welcome, Brienne Hennessy to Saturday Soundbites. Brienne is a Vocal Empowerment Coach who helps women who require their voices to do their jobs to conquer vocal fatigue, elevate voice wellness & tune into their powerful inner voice to show up as their truest self, & optimize their potential of communicative influence in professional & personal realms.
Brienne shares her journey as a speech pathologist and how it prepared her for a successful coaching career and voice-over artist. In this episode, she demonstrates with Veronica V. Sopher how to use the instrument of voice to its fullest potential to help you authentically connect with others. She also shares exercises on keeping your voice healthy is an important part of self-care for any entrepreneur! You can learn more about working with Brienne at www.yourvocalvitality.com
Episode 13
Veronica: [00:00:00] Hello? Hello, this is Veronica Sofer and you are joining me on Saturday soundbites. I'm so excited that you are here with us. We've got another great episode. We're going to be talking about your voice, the power of your voice and how it impacts your business. So make sure that if you are watching and you've got questions, you can put them in the comments.
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[00:00:35] We want to make sure that you don't miss any episodes of Saturday soundbites here. Saturday soundbites. We T we talk all things. Visibility strategy. Marketing advertising, public relations, branding, personal brand, all of those kinds of things come combined and aligned make up your visibility strategy. So we want to make sure that we bring you resources that are going to help you and your business grow.
[00:00:58] So we are going to go ahead and get started. I have an amazing guest for you today. You know, our voices are, is a huge part of our visibility and Brianne Hennessy is an expert at that. So we're going to bring her on. Stage, and we are going to start talking about the importance of your voice. Welcome.
[00:01:14] Brienne: [00:01:14] Welcome to you. I'm so happy to be here this morning. Oh my gosh. This is a great moment to connect and thank you for having me.
[00:01:22] Veronica: [00:01:22] Absolutely. I'm so excited. You're here and I have to just acknowledge the beautiful orchid over your shoulder. I love orchids. I have Betsy here, my orchid right behind me, and I'm glad we were able to connect about that right away.
[00:01:33] The bat.
[00:01:33] Brienne: [00:01:33] I know it was meant to be those are those divine synchronicities. You just. Can't ignore it. I
[00:01:38] Veronica: [00:01:38] love it. I love it. Absolutely. All right. Well, tell us a little bit about you and, uh, your journey, how you got here and all the things that, that brought you to where we are today to talk about voice.
[00:01:49] Brienne: [00:01:49] Absolutely. So as Veronica said, I'm Bria and I am a speech and voice pathologist turned vocal empowerment coach. And my mission is to guide women who use their voices to do their jobs, be able to conquer vocal, fatigue, elevate their voice health and wellness and tap into their inner voice so they can show up as their truest selves, which drastically impacts business relationships and just living an aligned life.
[00:02:17] Veronica: [00:02:17] I love it. And especially now with everything being virtual, I, you know, at least when you were meeting face to face, you may have a few minutes to transition from one conference room to another, or drive to see a client. But now we just go from meeting to meeting and our voices used every moment. I I'm just amazed.
[00:02:37] And I know there's a science behind it. Tell us your background.
[00:02:40] Brienne: [00:02:40] Yeah. So I started, um, early in undergrad, recognizing that I was interested in voice. I am a singer by recreation for fun and inquires throughout my life, but I truly believe that voice is something, especially our speaking voice, something that we can harness.
[00:02:57] Right. We can explore and that we each have our own natural, unique, authentic sound and how to bring that to the world is really important. So I knew I wanted to be in some realm of communication in, in undergrad, I discovered speech pathology. And within that, there's a specialty of voice, voice rehabilitation, voice disorders, and changes that can happen.
[00:03:20] And so over the last 13 years, I have been so fortunate to work at some of the top voice clinics in the country. Wholly every day, working with folks and their voices to make sure that they're healthy again, and that they're able to do what they need to do. So by the time I decided that I wanted to serve more people about a year and a half ago, I took the step to start my business.
[00:03:42] I really started to recognize that. It comes down to what you bring in an awareness standpoint, which we're going to talk about a little bit today, the importance of being aware. And so having that awareness and being preventative with what you can do with your voice now, so that there isn't injury later.
[00:04:01] So that it doesn't impact something like a relationship with a family member or a friend, or even your business and your bottom line. And so I recognized the kind of bigger, broader picture, and a lot of that came from my own personal journey. Um, being misunderstood, actually a lot in my twenties. Um, I, I I'm very acutely aware.
[00:04:23] By the nature of how people sound. I have a kind of a super power to hear certain things about voices, which I'm really, really grateful for, but also experiencing those times where people would say, you know, things like your tone of voice, there's just something about your tone of voice. And I just so many times that.
[00:04:40] What, what is going on? I I'm saying these words, what is, what is the mismatch? And so it took a long time during the course of my twenties to, to tease that out. And ultimately for me, and interestingly subsequently for some of the folks that I've worked with over the years, especially women, it came down to not being connected to my inner self.
[00:05:00] Ah, connected to my intuition and not having self-worth and Veronica for, for me, at least personally. And from what I see in society, that is a huge, huge missing piece for many folks, especially women who get criticized for their voices, how they sound too shrill too loud, too. This too, that all of these.
[00:05:20] Stereotypes, if you will, right. That serves no one because ultimately some of the women I've worked with from C-suite to entrepreneurs, to performers, they've tried to shift their voice to something that wasn't them. And that can lead to dysfunction. And so that's, that's kind of the big, broad picture of what I look at as two sides of the, of the same coin, how we're going to take care of the physical instrument and then how we're going to align that with our inner voice so that we show up as we are meant to, and ultimately like with what you do.
[00:05:54] That creates that bigger sense of how we're sharing our message and our brand with the world.
[00:06:00] Veronica: [00:06:00] Yeah. There's absolutely a correlation. And I think too, for a lot of people in that self discovery, um, you know, you're when you're younger, you feel like you need to sound older. Uh, and when you're older, you're trying to look younger and all of those things are probably.
[00:06:18] Not aligned. And so I love that you made that connection because as an entrepreneur, when you are presenting yourself, you are your brand and it needs to be authentic in order for people to feel comfortable working with you. And I know that that's definitely true, um, in the corporate world as well, because we've got a lot of viewers who are in traditional corporate spaces and, um, for women, especially you want to.
[00:06:43] Sound like, you know what you're talking about? At least that was true for me as a young executive. Yeah.
[00:06:49] Brienne: [00:06:49] Precisely. That is such a good example of Veronica because in, in the realm of, again, how we bias, we all have implicit bias. Yes. And so having biases against what it's supposed to sound like to be authoritative, do I drop my voice lower?
[00:07:03] Is that authoritative? Maybe, but maybe it's not the natural way you're meant to speak. And then you're putting yourself at more risk or you're noticing something just doesn't feel right. People aren't kind of connecting with me and this other idea of what is it about voices that yes, we like, we enjoy, we're all going to like different types of voices, similar to we like different types of music.
[00:07:25] So that's a really big factor too. I want people to be able to love their own voice, which unfortunately is not very many folks. I actually like the sound of their own voice. So when you're going up into, whether it is that full meeting in front of, in front of the board of directors or your next Facebook live, to be able to speak to your own audience and you don't actually love the instrument and the sound of it, does it matter the words you're saying, then you're really showcasing.
[00:07:52] There's something that's off. People can often sense that. So that's where I really try to help folks recognize that there can be a connection in that. And I was thinking when you were saying. That idea of, of with entrepreneurs, for example, you know, our brand and what we're trying to share with the world, you come up with your missions, right?
[00:08:11] You come up with your values and you come up with the ways that you want to speak out. And yet, very, very often people just ignore that their physical voice is doing the bulk of that work. They kind of take it for granted, which I get, we kind of wake up thinking like my voice will be there until it's not.
[00:08:28] Yeah. Yeah.
[00:08:29] Veronica: [00:08:29] That's so true. And I think for a lot of people who are on the online space and spend a lot of time, maybe on clubhouse, yes. I've actually been in clubhouse rooms. And for those of you that aren't familiar with the platform, it's an all voice. There's no video, it's all audio. And, um, and I hear people I might log in in the morning and catch a couple of rooms, but by the end of the night I'm losing and those people are exhausted and their voice sounds nothing like them.
[00:08:55] Yes. And it's, it's true. I mean, it is an instrument. So talk about that exhaustion because that's a real, that's a real
[00:09:02] Brienne: [00:09:02] thing. It, it absolutely is. And I believe that we've all experienced it at some point, maybe in little snippets. Um, it also reminds me of, you know, folks will come to me now and say, well, I need to work on my voice.
[00:09:12] Cause now I'm using zoom voice. Meaning they're talking like this at the screen shake, even though the camera and the mic is like right here. But, but it's this, it's this habitual thing that folks have gotten into, especially in this last year. Um, then you add on the component, if you are out and about, and trying to talk through a mask, if you are having to go back to back to back, because why not?
[00:09:32] It's virtual. I'll just pop into the next meeting. And so when I look at that across the course of a day or a week, that's called our vocal dose. Okay. So how much, how loud, how often everybody has a threshold. The science is getting much better at being able to look at why certain thresholds maybe have kind of gaps in them, why people are more at risk, but we can't yet predict who exactly is going to be the person that's going to be higher risk than not.
[00:10:01] For example, the cheerleader down the road, who's a professional cheerleader. Why doesn't she not lose her voice? But the executive who goes into the room and goes meeting to meeting to meeting by the end of the day, can't even reach their kids at night. So we still have that space to, to explore as far as the science goes, but we do know if you treat your voice, like you treat the rest of your body, that you're caring for it, that you're recognizing the signs that might come into play, like the fatigue and that you're not pushing through.
[00:10:28] That's probably the biggest mistake that folks make that, um, It's almost like a mindset. If you are using your voice to do your job, to connect with people and without it, you couldn't have a job, a business, a relationship, then you're a vocal athlete and like any other athlete, that's a mindset to set yourself up for.
[00:10:47] And those who aren't aware of that tend to push through push and push and push. I'll. Just, I just have one more meeting. I just have one more call all rest. Be fine by the next day again, until they're not. And that's so many times the folks who would come into the clinic setting that I worked in over all the years and they would say, well, why now, why did this one thing, you know, tip the scales?
[00:11:09] And I would say, it's not the one thing it's, it's the culmination of these things. And so I want folks to be preventative, proactive, and strategic about how they look at their voice day. It's a matter of almost thinking of it, like. I call them little voice snaps. How can you say spit in little voice naps, you know, and like you were saying weather, you know, when we were commuting like in your car and not belting out to the, the, every song on the radio, please do, but don't do it every, every song.
[00:11:36] So that by the time you get to your next meeting, you're like, Oh man, you know, there's ways to be clever about this ways to delegate, um, emailing and texting. And honestly, back to the zoom voice example. Trusting your microphone. I mean, Veronica, you are an expert at this. You, you have your visible microphone right there, but you will also trust it.
[00:11:56] And I can tell because you're not having it there as like a prop. And then still speaking, like you have to project and shout, you know what I'm saying? So that's something that I think a lot of folks still just need some education about, and that will save them. So much in your background in education.
[00:12:11] For example, teachers are one of the highest risk populations when it comes to just having how long they have to speak and not having amplification in the classroom ways to support their, their voice, their sound, their acoustics, to get my teachers. When I was in the clinic to use a microphone, there is like such a stigma to it, still such a stigma.
[00:12:32] And it was just so heartbreaking to see them say, Oh, it's summer break. I'll be fine. Two weeks, three weeks, four weeks into the fall. Back into the clinic. They come because rest alone doesn't do the trick. So that's just kind of the first tip rest, but don't bank on it to be the thing that's going to just resolve, you know, that fatigue you're feeling.
[00:12:54] Veronica: [00:12:54] And it's so true. The idea of you're a voice athlete. I've never heard that term. I think you should put it on a t-shirt if you haven't already, that would be some great marketing for your business, but I now more than ever. The idea is that we need to connect with people genuinely. Yes. And there needs to be natural, um, engagement, authentic engagement.
[00:13:18] And when you're doing that, all your little subtleties start coming in, you know, as a professional speaker or as, you know, my training of course is in media. So if I'm doing a press conference, I know not to use ums. I know to speak in sound bites. I know how to chop my words. Um, I know at what level, the type of vocabulary I need to be using for that for a TV audience needs to be great.
[00:13:42] I have all that training, but in the entrepreneur space and probably even in the corporate space, no one explains to us. How to speak and use our voice in a way that's going to make a genuine connection.
[00:13:55] Brienne: [00:13:55] It's such a great distinction, Veronica, because that's what I kind of, um, noticed the, for example, the public speaking coach or, or typical voice coach, I come at it from a unconventional way, I guess I would say, would discuss the things that you just mentioned.
[00:14:10] You know, the things that are going to bring you that, you know, kind of more broadcast journalism type training, you know, get you ready for the stage. But that same idea of how are you still going to feel confident truly in your voice? I don't really believe in the fake it till you make it component because our voice is a barometer and how we're feeling, what we believe our underlying emotions.
[00:14:30] A they're going to show through this instrument because that's just the natural energy of the sound waves coming out into the air and be back to that alignment piece of if you're not even liking your own voice on playback and you're internally cringing. When you hear yourself speak right. Again, that's going to create a disconnect.
[00:14:47] I call it a dissonance. Okay. Acoustics. We have this idea of sound waves. When sound waves are out of alignment or chaotic, it's called dissonance when they are in alignment, it's called resonance. And so you want your voice to be able to resonate both in how it sounds and how you feel about it. And you're right there.
[00:15:04] Aren't. Programs that allow for this kind of awareness early on. That's one of my biggest hopes is that that I can create a preventative approach where people know from, from day one, that this is possible for them to explore. And to your point about how we use inflection and volume and intonation, that those are.
[00:15:25] Excellent things for people to harness some, do it more naturally and easily than others. I believe everyone has the capability to access that, but I also think there has to be Jen a genuineness to it. I was in a clubhouse room the other day, and I was appalled by a very prominent voice coach telling someone that he fixed his voice.
[00:15:44] I don't believe humans are to be fixed. I don't think that anyone's voices needs fixing and he further went on to say, all you have to do is talk higher. This was a man who had a base voice for those of you who know like bass tenor, Alto, bass, Boyce, and he was telling him to talk higher. It sounded so fake and so, and authentic.
[00:16:04] And then he finalized it with, well, that does sound better. And the reason you want your voice to sound better. So other people like it and we'll listen to you. Oh, yeah, so many things wrong with that. And this had a room of 12, this room had 1200 people in it being wowed by this transformation. And, and I just felt for the person, because he was told he was broken, essentially given a tip that does not functionally make sense for his natural voice.
[00:16:32] And then are we really here to make sure that others, like how we sound. Oh, we're here to stand in our truest selves and show that so that I agree with you there, there has to be some of that earlier foundation set and, and that's why I love what I do, because it, it allows for that ability to comfortably explore and do that in a way that people may not even recognize that they could do something with their voice.
[00:16:59] And then also be able to give themselves the grace and space to know that situationally, this might vary. Boardroom. Yeah. Maybe you have your boardroom voice. You have choices though, so that when you go home, maybe there's a certain voice that you use with your family. It's called code switching. We all do it in some capacity.
[00:17:17] Um, but I've had folks who, even in their own dinner tables, don't feel comfortable speaking up their opinion. They feel like they say something and they're not heard. And I, and I'm wondering how many of y'all here have ever had that experience where. You do say something, but you're just not heard. And so that also can be harnessed from how you relate with your voice.
[00:17:37] Veronica: [00:17:37] And do you, do you find, and I'm so fascinated by all those examples, but especially the last one, I, you know, I'm guilty of it. I, you know, I lead large teams and when you work for a large educational institution, the way I do, you have a large audience, and sometimes I'm walking in the door and it's straight.
[00:17:53] Direction direction, direction. And I literally have had my family say, um, hello, you're not at work. And it startled me because my brain has to do a quick switch. And then all of a sudden, you know, you're, you're present. And, and I think sometimes when we don't give ourselves time to be present, yes, To where we are as voice doesn't have a chance to change.
[00:18:17] Brienne: [00:18:17] Okay. Perfect example, Veronica. And that is actually one of my first among the things we've talked about first, like dedicated tip, I call it setting an intention before you speak. So it's a, it's, it's exactly that getting present and that those setting, those intentions can be set. At any of those transition points, ideally during a voice snap, when you're resting your voice for a few minutes,
[00:18:39] Veronica: [00:18:39] anyway,
[00:18:43] Brienne: [00:18:43] checking in that you're breathing, that's really important. People are always saying, Oh, I just have to breathe from my abdomen. Like that's a whole nother mother talk in and of itself. Um, but are you breathing? I seen growth holders. Those of you here today and on the replay, if you're not checking in with that, but yes, so that you are present because that's, what's going to give you that moment to say, okay, what do I need in this moment?
[00:19:04] And how is that going to be reflected in what I do next? So I love that. Yeah.
[00:19:08] Veronica: [00:19:08] Yeah. And what are some other tips that you can share with folks? Because I love that one. I'm definitely going to do it and I'll tell you, I realized just last time we spoke that being present is just so powerful and I started going into more meetings being present and the results were more successful.
[00:19:24] Brienne: [00:19:24] Yes. Yes. That is. Thank you for that. Gosh. Yes. Thank you for being willing to, to try it and take action on that. They don't have to be these huge things. It's more the consistency of it. For sure. And so that's where, if any of the tips that, that y'all choose today, you know, choose one, implement it and see what starts to unfold.
[00:19:47] That's really important. This is a transition and evolution in the voice and the voice evolves over our lifetime. Anyway. So to your point about women and being, you know, younger and older, Hate to break it to y'all, but all of our voices are gonna change as we get older, but there are ways to be proactive again about making sure that you harness what's available to you in the present moment.
[00:20:08] So setting the intention, using the microphone, like we talked about taking those breaks and then standing use your body. So many folks are always seated when they are doing some sort of presentation or even conversational networking and chatting. And gosh, I mean, that's kind of some of what we've had to work through this last year.
[00:20:29] And yet there's lots of ways to. Be explorative with how you're going to use your body. So I encourage people to stand as often as they can. Um, I also encourage folks to be able to give yourself some actual movement, body movement before you're going to go do a talk or to be in front of clients, whatever the case may be.
[00:20:50] Just so again, you're connecting because this is not. Here and here it's a conduit and the voice is right in the middle of that. And so that relieves tension through the body, which is then downstream going to relieve that tension that you might feel if you've been talking a long time, which leads to that fatigue, which leads to that, wanting to push through and push through, and then the changes in the quality.
[00:21:12] The weakness, the feeling not comfortable with your own sound, that sort of thing. So I really encourage folks to get into their body when they can. Yeah,
[00:21:20] Veronica: [00:21:20] no, I love it. That's great. And I've noticed too, as you were, those tips are fantastic and I hope everyone goes back and especially on the replay, let us know what you think about those and how you're going to implement them.
[00:21:30] But I will tell you too, there are times when I feel like I was strong in the morning. I powered through cause I'm a power, you know, and that's, that's just the truth about me the end of the night. I, I think why is that like a frog? Why am I so, and it occurs to me that, um, I need to number one, take better care of my instrument, but number two, be mindful of when I'm feeling the strongest so that I can schedule those important conversations with those people at a time when I know I'm going to be my strongest because you're riding age, age, Plays a part in what's happening with your voice.
[00:22:06] Brienne: [00:22:06] It's exactly. And nobody has a hundred percent, a hundred percent of the time, not even me. And that is okay. And so I love that the flexibility can be in there to either yes. Delegate or use your voice in its strongest points of the day and know that like the rest of our bodies as an athlete, it can be conditioned.
[00:22:22] It can grow in stamina. We use you'll hear things like strength. It's not like a skeletal muscle that you can like pump some iron and get stronger. The idea is to use it more efficiently, coordinating the breath, the voice, the vocal folds themselves for y'all who don't know your voice as here in the neck.
[00:22:40] Okay. And right behind your Adam's Apple are the vocal folds. So if you even just do a little sound while your hand is there, mm you'll feel a vibration. Yeah. And then the reason that we all sound unique to ourselves and need to use different things and unique, customized things to get the best sound is because when we put a head neck on there, the sound is actually shaped through those spaces.
[00:23:04] So that's why we each sound different. And that's why there is, um, that nuance to why certain things work for some folks and certain things, not for other folks. So for example, Veronica, would you be open to doing a quick little? Sure. Cool. Thanks. Okay. So what I'd like you to do is you're just going to sigh on a hum.
[00:23:23] Okay. Like, so
[00:23:30] And again, please. Hmm, cut. So I want to show you what I see. Okay. Right. Hm. Okay. Versus, Hmm. So in the two distinctions, the upper body was really trying to help. Yeah. Yeah. This part of the, the, the breast support, the lungs of course are the power source. And then we've got the rib cage and then we've got the muscles that do support that.
[00:24:03] But the more often they're using any extra skeletal muscles here, the more often it's going to put strain and fatigue and make you feel froggy by the end of the day, let's try the hum again. And all I want you focused on is that the sound is going to come right here at the front of your face. K, just focus on that.
[00:24:25] Yeah, those of you watching and Veronica, you'll see it on playback night and day difference. You looked at ease when you did it. Okay. Focus on the sound here again. Beautiful. Now turn up the volume of it. Hmm. There we go. One more time, please. Beautiful. Now you're doing it with such ease and efficiency.
[00:24:47] You don't need all this stuff. Yeah. Yeah. And the sound was gorgeous. You already have flow to your voice, but you actually have these couple sections right. In your mid glide. That's called that really resonated. That really stood out. So that's then where you can kind of use that as like a home base too.
[00:25:07] And I love how then you can almost. Go meta and, and observe yourself be present in that moment. Hmm. Cool. My body's at ease. Hmm. Yeah, I'm feeling good. Like you can feel into it more and I think that's cool too. We hear all the time, but tapping into how we're feeling as we're doing this and what feels good.
[00:25:27] And easeful is crucial.
[00:25:30] Veronica: [00:25:30] Wow. I love it. And it's, uh, is that I noticed that I have that sensation when we're doing meditations, you know, when we Russ, so I just, all of a sudden had a connection. My little educator part is coming together. I've made a connection. That's what it feels like when we're meditating and it's.
[00:25:49] And we're, we're making sounds, but they're coming, you know, they ask us to, to bring them up from different part of our
[00:25:56] Brienne: [00:25:56] chakras. Yeah. Yes, exactly. That's what, Oh my gosh. I love that Veronica. Yes, that's what I help people kind of connect to as well in that idea of those though. That's where you're harnessing different energy from the body and literally letting it flow through here.
[00:26:09] Not get, not get stuck. Knock it topped off. I love that example because yes, that's one of the E's easiest places and most natural places, especially with like chanting type meditations and things that really, you can just get ideally lost in your voice. And it's a beautiful space, a healing space to be.
[00:26:27] Um, and that's, that's a whole nother talk. I think sound healing and voice healing is, is. It's totally possible. I love it.
[00:26:33] Veronica: [00:26:33] And I'm so, you know, it is, it is exactly for another time, but yes, and frequency healing. I believe it, I have had migraines. I have set them out of my body and moved them out with frequency, you know, and it's, I'm just so you know, my husband's a radio engineer and so we talk about sound and frequencies and vibrations all the time.
[00:26:52] And so I'm with ya. I blog there. I'm a believer. I love it.
[00:26:59] Well, tell us we can work with you. I know we're running out of time, but I want to make sure people know how they can tap into you as a resource, whether they're in the corporate space, I've got a couple of professional public speakers, um, and listening today and watching. So tell us how people can work with you.
[00:27:13] Brienne: [00:27:13] Oh, yes. Happy to. So, um, two spots. So one is straight through my website, www.yourvocalvitality.com. There I have information, um, about a masterclass that I am leading. April 14th. And we're going to go into more of a deep dive of some of these components that we've talked about today. And then if anything, if you are more of a DM person, feel free to DM me.
[00:27:39] I am on Facebook primarily. You'll see me on Instagram at your vocal vitality. I love connecting with people. And for those of you here or on the radio, Play some of these tips, we talked about even comprise what we call vocal care or vocal hygiene. So I have a free gift to offer y'all if you would like a handout going through additional ways that you can just feel soused in your voice and make sure that it feels like it is getting some of that TLC, then drop voice in the chat.
[00:28:06] If you drop voice in the chat, I will be able to connect with you and send you that handout as well.
[00:28:11] Veronica: [00:28:11] That's fantastic. Oh, I'm so glad we had this conversation. It was so powerful and enlightening for me. And I love, I love learning any day of the week. So this was a good one for me.
[00:28:21] Brienne: [00:28:21] You were a delightful student and I appreciate that.
[00:28:26] And thank you for putting yourself out there to explore your voice live. That is huge. So I appreciate you for doing that. Absolutely. Thanks
[00:28:33] Veronica: [00:28:33] so much, right. Well, we are going to wrap up this episode. Saturday sound bites, guys. I hope that you are tuning tuning in every week. We bring you experts like Brianna, who are genuinely available to assist you in growing your business and whatever that looks like.
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